Wednesday, June 11, 2008

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http://www.nanfangdaily.com.cn
南方周末 (Southern Weekend), a popular yet fairly serious weekly newspaper, covers the news,
culture, business, and politics,

http://www.yweekend.com/
青年周末 YWeekend. The weekly newspaper. Punchy, irreverent stories, divided into two sections
- media review, which looks at the stories behind the current news headlines, and a sort of
web-style-arts section. It's not available at all newsstands, but look around for it on Thursday
or Friday. It's got an orange-and-black cover. Or you could just read it online every week.

http://chinese.wsj.com
Wall Street Journal (Bilingual edition; click on 英 for English)

http://www.ftchinese.com/sc/story.jsp?id=001014415
Financial Times (Bilingual edition; click on 查看英文原文 for English)

http://www.caijing.com.cn/
《财经》 , the leading business/current affairs magazine in China.

http://www.lifeweek.com.cn/
三联生活周刊 (Life Week). A bit like Time magazine. About half the articles in each issue
are about things happening in China, half devoted to introducing Western culture and lifestyle to
a Chinese audience.

http://www.gotoread.com/mag/12770
广角镜, from Hong Kong. Basically, the magazine is designed for “policy makers”.
1) It is very direct, and un-euphemistic in its writing style.
2) It talks about “sensitive” political issues, such as the top leadership of the CCP, Taiwan,
and China’s foreign policy in a very direct and objective manner.
3) It sums up some of the most important trends in the Mainland in a very concise manner.
4) It uses traditional characters (I’ve basically fallen in love with traditional recently)

http://www.lep.com.cn/wxzz/wxmw.htm
《万象》, a magazine focused on the arts and culture.
杂志自一九九八年新刊发行以来,得到知识界、读书界儒英才的支持和关爱�
��在海内外旧雨新知中获得广泛好评。在新时期,《万象》全体编印人员继�
�奉献思想美文、雅趣小品,满足广大读者的不同阅读情趣,为书香人间尽绵
薄之力。欢迎订阅《万象》杂志。

http://www.abbao.cn/
AB报, a daily updated website that holds a compendium of electronic Chinese papers.

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I'll third the suggestion for massive amounts of listening.

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Either both of them speak Mandarin or both of them speak Cantonese, or both of them speak English.

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Hello
I know things are changing everyday- but im wondering what you guys think.
I have a 90day visa that expires Aug 18th, and I want to extend it at the public security bureau
for 30days? Is that still do-able?

Or are they just complete dropping that option?

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Depends on what sort of visa it is. If it is an F-visa then there is no way to extend it beyond
Jul 1. If it is an L-visa (tourist visa) then you should be able to extend it. I just extended
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Maybe they do have a point about this, and many of us westerners don't do much to prove them wrong.

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Hello Friends,

In the sentence: 现在更给人点了相,暴露了行藏。

Please explain the meaning of 点了相, can't find it in any dictionary. Thank you.

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It is supposed to be jargons used bu gangsters or some thing like that. I can't explain it
exactly. Roughly, it means that identity was discovered and thus exposed.

vincent123 -

Thank you, monto. I am very happy to see your reply again.

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flameproof -

When you use the Annotator 说 will be translated to "shui4". Which is maybe not outright wrong,
however, in most cases it should be "shuo1".

It's not a ZDT problem, rather a CEDICT DB problem. But for those which use the Annotator function
often certainly a nuisance.

Solution: the technical knowledgeable can open die CEDICT file and just swap the two entries.

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There are tens if not hundreds of characters that have multiple pronunciation; how should ZDT
handle them? Putting the most common one first is probably a good idea, and for many characters
that will probably be good enough. But what about 相, 調, 重, 長, 者, and 得 in which the
multiple pronunciations are common?

See http://www.fudao100.cn/Article_Print.asp?ArticleID=4786 for example.

jbradfor -

Another thought. I have come across several entries in the CEDICT dictionary that I think may be
wrong; they are typically either duplicate entries, or there is a definition that belongs to a
related entry. [e.g. for 丼 it gives a definition as 'well'; I believe that is not correct as 井
means well.] Is there a way to correct them?

flameproof -

jbradfor
You are of course right. For 话 it's very obvious that the shuo1 should come first, for others
you have to check case by case. That's maybe the problem with all automatic translations.

But, what would be cool would a function to make it easier to edit the CEDICT DB. Now I open the
cedict.script file with notepad and do a manual editing.

Anyone has a better solution?

Luobot -

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I have come across several entries in the CEDICT dictionary that I think may be wrong; they are
typically either duplicate entries, or there is a definition that belongs to a related entry.
[e.g. for 丼 it gives a definition as 'well'; I believe that is not correct as 井 means well.]
Is there a way to correct them?

I'm not sure that I have a better solution but in looking for one, this is what I found:

First, take a look at the following page: MandarinTools

Note that it contains a link for new entries: automated submission page

... and a link to join a mailing list "to discuss issues related to CEDICT, including specific
dictionary entries ... as well as possible future directions for the CEDICT project."
-> CEDICT mailing list info page

I believe that ChineseTools of MandarinTools is also a member of this forum.

Additions and corrections via MDBG can be made here.
Here is the MDBG link for improvements.

Finally, you can download the updated version of CEDICT from either MandarinTools or MDBG, and
then, I think, there should be a way to import the updated version into ZDT.

Of course, Chris of ZDT is the best one to discuss all this with.

bogleg -

I don't really recommend editing the dictionaries by hand because in the future if I update the
dictionary you'll lose all your changes if you're not careful.

I think participating in editing CEDICT is the way to go, and will benefit the whole Chinese
learning community in general. I can update the cedict plugin when people request it.

Chris

jbradfor -

Luobot, thanks for that information. I'll take a look.

Bogleg (Chris), which version of CEDICT is used in ZDT now? Can I install the latest version? I
figure I should ensure I'm using the latest version before I comment on it.

bogleg -

Hi Jeff,

I've just updated the CEDICT plugin to the Nov 26th version of the CEDICT dictionary. The old
version was more than a year old I think. It has 55,000 entries which is double the amount of
entries as the old version. Just download the new jar file and drop it into your plugins directory
and you should be good to go.

Chris

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Quote:

When you use the Annotator 说 will be translated to "shui4". Which is maybe not outright wrong,
however, in most cases it should be "shuo1".

Sorry, but 说 could be pronounced as "shui4" as in 说服. I agree it should not be the first
choice, but it was not wrong either.

丼 is a very old Chinese character and it does mean "well". Again, it is not wrong, either.

jbradfor -

Luobot, thanks for the pointers on updating CEDICT entries. As you suggest, I followed the MDBG
link. Turns out they make it incredibly easy! Just lookup any word or phrase
(http://www.xuezhongwen.net/chindict/chindict.php), and in the results, on the far right in the
answer box, is a little pencil-and-paper icon. Just click on it to bring up a form to suggest a
correction. Really simple!

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I realize these may be a little elementary and a little too Taiwanese for some Chinese
speakers/learners, but thought they were cool(and free):

About tongue twisters:
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=gr6FJM...eature=related
The only thing I would question is they said that 繞口令 is like RAP, but maybe tongue twister
is a more accurate translation( 看你的想法).

Another one about ordering food:
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=iEG1CM7yN-s
A new word for me was 文旦 which I'm assuming is the same as 柚子.
I was thinking that even if people already knew the vocabulary in the videos, they could also
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L-F-J -

yeah, tongue twister. rap has words that rhyme. but they dont usually twist your tongue. its not
that easy to mess up, just difficult to get the flow. and rap usually has meaning. those tongue
twisters dont necessarily have to say anything. both videos are talking about easily messing up
what you say. in some cases saying different words.

ganyuehan -

Thanks, L-F-J.

Speaking of tongue twisters. Here's one my teacher gave me:
四十四隻石獅子

In regards to the comment I made about文旦, my teacher told me it's a kind of pomelo that's
smaller.

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look, i m sorry that i m such a chinese n00b but ... hm, always when i tried to translate these
words - in chinese-english dictionaries there are so many different words what each of these 4
words could stand for - so i ve no idea and if u don't want to help me no problem, i ve read the
rules...
the 4 words are:
mo li hua kai
greetings n thank you

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mo li hua kai
I think it's
茉莉花开,meaning
jasmine flower blossoms out.

If it's the name for a song, then just
'Jasmine Flower"

here2learn -

That's probably a great guess, but dear OP, please realize it's only a guess if we don't know the
context. So maybe you can say where you saw/heard it.

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which means it cannot be simply understood in a linguistical perspective.

I don't want to argue on anything other than language here. So anything other than the language is
nonsense to me.

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So anything other than the language is nonsense to me.

Ah ha. I see. Thanks for pointing it out so we should know how to respond to your attitude /
comments / views.

yersi -

edit: nevermind

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It is just sad to see nobody in China is interested in learning Italian, which is such a beautiful
language. More embarrassed to say, I know several young Italians who are learning Chinese now.
Sigh.

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flameproof -

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It is just sad to see nobody in China is interested in learning Italian

How do you know?

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More embarrassed to say, I know several young Italians who are learning Chinese now. Sigh.

Why is it embarrassing for Italians to learn Chinese? Is it just embarrassing for Italians? How
about Dutch, or Austrians? Is the learning embarrassing or the language as such?

roddy -

Embarrassing for the Chinese, not for the Italians, as the enthusiasm for their language is not
reciprocated.

Edit: And removed the posts on the quality of Pizza Hut pizza.

jade- -

Quote:

Why is it embarrassing for Italians to learn Chinese? Is it just embarrassing for Italians? How
about Dutch, or Austrians? Is the learning embarrassing or the language as such?

no, no, I am embarassed, not the Italians. I was trying to say that many young Italians are
learning Chinese, but not many Chinese (young or old) are learning Italian. How do I know? From
reading this thread.

Thanks, roddy.

flameproof -

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Embarrassing for the Chinese, not for the Italians, as the enthusiasm for their language is not
reciprocated. .

Their is not much enthusiasm for Chinese language. Those who really learn it is still a very very
small minority. The market for English, Spanish and even Japanese is way bigger.

Nevertheless, there are surely be some Chinese that learn Italian, but one has to look at the
right places. Here is certainly not the right place. The right place would a message board of a
Chinese university that teaches foreign languages. Our Italian friend would need help with that
though, as they are 100% in Chinese.

Another option is the QQ rooms. Get a QQ #, and search and join a group. Search here:

http://group.qq.com

Your search keywords are: Italian, Italy, Italiano, 意大利, 意大利语

To make money out of that will be another problem, you need to find willing people near you.

Quote:

I was trying to say that many young Italians are learning Chinese, but not many Chinese (young or
old) are learning Italian. How do I know? From reading this thread.

This is not an "Italian language in China board". If you go to a cats board you need ask questions
about cats, not many will help you with your car mechanics questions. Just my common sense
approach.....

PS: I was looking for an IT<>CN<>EN interpreter a while ago and they do exist. Harder to find, but
still possible.

Here is another possible suggestion: contact a, or several, (English) language school(s) near you.
They will offer Italian as long as they can make some money out of it. I think that would be the
most easiest and highest potential possibility.

LaVandez -

You hit the learned market for that, those would be the guys who buy gucci and prada and dolce and
maybe you'll find some interst. Other than that you could try some of the fashion schools or
traders who work in that part of the world. If I were you since you seem to be able to speak
English I would package together English and Italian with English being the primary focus. Or shop
out your resume to a few restaurants and tout your ability to deliver authentic italian class that
may work but its a longshot.
Your problem is that a market for non English western language is still young s you'll have to
just wait a little while until it matures.

marcoppe -

I am Italian as well. I am going to be spending my next year in Hangzhou. Would be interesting to
post messages at a Fashion School or at a Music School. I know many Japanese opera students
wanting to learn Italian. Not sure if Hangzhou has anything like that sort of activities.

simonlaing -

I had a summer job teaching recent engineering student hires Business English in the summer for
the Iveco (Fiat) Company. In addition to english training they did have classes in Italian though
these were taught by a chinese teacher.

I am based in Nanjing where Iveco has a large mini bus factory. (the big white ones that look like
Airport shuttles) .

You could try applying to these large companies to try and get a job. Also there are some wine
importers with import from Italy, Germany and to an extent France.

The new shopping fad is on fashion. Some people will spend a month or 2 month's salary on a
handbag. It is huge growth industry.

Also there are some Italian and EU chamber of commerce groups that you can try and contact to get
leads.
Good luck,
SImon

carlo -

Someone I know went to this school in Beijing: http://www.holaeurope.cn/ A google search for
北京意大利语培训 (Courses of Italian in Beijing) shows quite a number of options. I don't
know any, so I can't comment.

The numbers however are misleading. Even if 0.01% of people living in cities are interested in
Italian, you may still find a niche here. The drivers are what you would expect: a passion for
art, history or fashion etc. The problem is finding prospects. You would also need a school to
arrange visas for you. On the other hand I still regularly meet young Chinese who think Italians
speak English like Leonardo Di Caprio, so English may be hard to get away from.

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Wednesday, June 4, 2008

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channamasala -

Cantonese: 0%
Hakka: 5%
Taiwanese: improving by the day. 10%?

I've found with Taiwanese that when I hear it, I have no idea what the actual words the person is
saying are. However, if I just sort of sit back and let my ears do the thinking, I start to
understand the general gist of what the speaker is saying...while continuing to not understand the
individual words. Odd.

This happened in Jingtong a few months ago; we went hiking up Shulongjian and the two dogs that
the owners of our hotel had followed us up, then disappeared. On the way back we asked an old lady
if she'd seen the two dogs. She talked for about 45 seconds in Taiwanese.

"What did she say?" asks my boyfriend.
"That the dogs came by about an hour ago and headed home."
"So you understood what she said?!"
"Not really."

A lot of Taiwanese is very similar to Mandarin ("wah bu ei hiang dai yi" should be a phrase any
decent speaker of Mandarin would understand)...and a lot of it is really, really not.

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Hakka: 5%
Teochew: 15%
Taiwanese: 80% (from reference point of fujianhua)

Kaimei -

Hakka:
20%

ChaoZhou:
5%

Minan/Taiwanese:
10%

All the southern speech,so strange~

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I am NOT a native speaker of the Chinese language.  49 64.47%
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I am a native speaker. My mother tongue is Putonghua. I don't speak Putonghua at home.  3 3.95%
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atitarev -

There are some downloadable forum versions where you can switch the language in the preferences.
Not suggesting it here, after so much work has been put into  From Beijing Chinese School, then they are made a normal member and
their posts will appear directly.

Regarding post moderation, single-line posts from new members that add nothing to the thread are
usually just deleted, for example, just saying "I agree", or repeating something that is exactly
the same as a previous reply (e.g. the definition of a word or term). Single line language
exchange requests are also deleted. All the above points apply regardless of the language used.

Another common mistake that some new members make is to use the "report post" button instead of
the "post reply" button. This often happens by people who have signed up, but not clicked the
registration link in the email and so the post reply button isn't yet visible. Clicking on the
"report post" button will just send a message to the admin and we have no practical way to make
this appear as a post in the original thread under the member's name.

So, in summary, new users should
1) Make sure they fully complete the registration process (including clicking on the link in the
email).
2) Make posts/new threads with content that contributes to the discussion, rather than just adding
one-liners repeating what has already been said.
3) Have patience until their post appears (which might be up to 24 hours).

If for some reason a post still hasn't appeared after that time, then it has probably not made it
past the moderation stage. If this has happened the member can always send a message to the admin
asking why.

atitarev -

This is what I meant (not for all but for Chinese speakers who prefer to use Chinese or have
difficulties with English), it's a Google auto-translation :

imron -

Quote:

中文角 is not open to any forum member. You'll have to answer quite a few to be able to read or
post there

After further investigation, it would seem that Semantic Nuance was correct. Previously, 中文角
was only visible to full members and not newly registered members or guests. This has been now
been changed so that new members are also able to view and post there (keeping in mind that the
above mentioned moderation rules still apply). It is still hidden from guests, in order to reduce
the amount of randoms just popping in to say 你好 and then disappearing, never to be seen again.

semantic nuance -

Quote:

Previously, 中文角 was only visible to full members and not newly registered members or guests.
This has been now been changed so that new members are also able to view and post there (keeping
in mind that the above mentioned moderation rules still apply).

When did this rule change? Anyway, it's good to know that more people can help answer questions
now.

imron -

Quote:

When did this rule change?

About 2 minutes before I made that post Just remember to tell your friends not to go through and
add an answer to every post asking for the meaning of some word. This happens from time to time
with a new user going through and making dozens of posts to long-dead threads, the majority of
which end up simply repeating previous answers, and never make it past moderation.

gougou -

Quote:

Anyway, it's good to know that more people can help answer questions now.

Actually, when I look at the most recent posts in the Chinese corner, there doesn't seem to be a
lot of language questions discussed there. So while native speakers sure are welcome to
participate in the discussions there, the majority of language-related questions will probably
still remain outside of the Chinese corner and thus require fairly good knowledge of English
(especially when taking into account that the majority of people asking them have only limited
Chinese reading capabilities).

semantic nuance -

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So while native speakers sure are welcome to participate in the discussions there, the majority of
language-related questions will probably still remain outside of the Chinese corner and thus
require fairly good knowledge of English (especially when taking into account that the majority of
people asking them have only limited Chinese reading capabilities)

聊勝於無啊!! 不過我覺得中文角好像是對中文能力中上的人有幫助吧!
初級的中文學習者恐怕很難切入及理解吧! 我要說的是:
有些中文為母語的人士, 他們可能在文法上的解釋或見解很棒,
但是侷限於英文能力不足, 所以心有餘而力不足.

Yes, that's why I asked if it is possible to have a translation service.(maybe needless to
translate all of the articles but keypoints for Chinese learners to better understand the ideas. I
know it requires a lot of work. 中文角 seems to be a place to practice Chinese.
我所說的是中文角畢竟是給學過中文一段時間的人在練習的.
如果有一個可以中英文互譯的機制, 那應該可以造福更多人.
只是我知道這樣做很繁瑣...的確很繁瑣...

Hero Doug -

A bit off topic, sort of on topic.

Quote:

Originally Posted by imron

There is always the 中文角, which doesn't really seem to get much use - although recently there
have been a couple of decent threads there.

I've been thinking of this for a while and I suppose it's time to voice it.

I personally never go into the Chinese corner because I know all the conversations in there are
beyond me, so I just don't bother.

Why not do it like a institution. Divide the corner into beginner, intermediate, and advanced.
That way the conversation won't be dominated by high level speakers and low level speakers can
role play/chat/etc in the forum that best meets their level.

There are definately a lot of pros and cons to this idea, but could be worth a shot.

gougou -

Quote:

Divide the corner into beginner, intermediate, and advanced.

To be honest, I wonder whether there is enough interest in that. But feel free to start a thread
and mark it as beginners only to test the waters!

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Tuesday, June 3, 2008

Chinese Lesson - Book of the month in July 2007? - Page 2 - From Beijing Chinese School.com > Learning Chinese > Resources and General Study Issues > Book of the Month

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gato -

Hey, if you are still interested in reading and discussing 沉沦 (Sinking), here is an online
copy:
http://www.white-collar.net/01-autho...-yu-df/002.htm
沉沦
■郁达夫

Take a look. I just skimmed through it, and I'm not sure if it's the best choice for a discussion
(as it's not plot-driven at all).

Perhaps we could try 春风沉醉的晚上 (Spring Night), which I mentioned before. It's a great
story and might fit better for a discussion.
http://www.oklink.net/99/1222/yudafu/003.htm
春风沉醉的晚上 (Spring Night)

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gougou -

The second one looks quite short. That could entice me into actually finishing it

gato -

Go for it!

文言訓開班 -

Yeah, I looked at that online version of chen lun, too. It is pretty long, but I wouldn't mind
reading it. gougou, if you think you could finish the second one, though, I'm as of right now
impartial--I'd love to read along with you. What say ye, gato?

gato -

Yes, I would highly recommend 春风沉醉的晚上. Let's go for it.

gougou -

I'm in. Read the first two paragraphs just now, and I think it's quite a beautiful way of writing!
Quite easy to understand as well - while I didn't know a few phrases, I've been able to guess most
from the characters they were made up of.

Will be back for more during my lunch break. Or when I get bored again, whichever occurs earlier

gato -

I've started a new thread for this discussion:
http://www. From Beijing Chinese School/showth...926#post127926
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optical -

Help!

My airconditioner stopped making my room actually get cold and now it's just blowing like a fan -
this thing has so many damn modes and options I can't get it to work again. Can you help me?

Here is the remote:

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你先按电源打开空调,然后按模式,显示屏上会有一个箭头,使箭头指向制�
��!然后按设定温度调到你适应的温度!然后你也可以按风速来调节风速,
这样不好说清楚,如果还不能制冷,你叫一个中国同学来调调,如果不行,�
��就是空调的问题了!

JimmySeal -

Would've helped to rotate the image so we didn't all have to tilt our heads.

The items next to the LCD from top to bottom are:
Auto
Cool
Dehumidify
Fan
Heat

I think the buttons under the temperature control (in left-right left-right order) are
Wind speed
Function
Fan direction
Sleep

If that doesn't work I'm sure someone else can help more.

Mugi -

节能 is "energy-saving mode" (eco mode??)

If you can't get a Chinese person to come by and take a look at it for you as another poster
suggested, you might want to post another photo of the LCD with the air-con switched on so we can
see what settings it is on.

JimmySeal -

Quote:

节能 is "energy-saving mode" (eco mode??)

My bad. In that case, I would suppose the button directly below the Power button is the mode
change button.

gato -

Follow what coolnicholas said.

Press the 模式 (mode) button until the display arrow points to 制冷 (cool). Then use the arrow
button to adjust to the desired temperature.

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Flameproof, how EXACTLY do you cut up the lesson? I mean, what tools/software do you use to do
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Flameproof, how EXACTLY do you cut up the lesson? I mean, what tools/software do you use to do
that?

I use Cool Edit, I have that since ages. However, it's not freeware. For FREE I suggest Audacity.
I haven't tried it, so let me know.....

http://audacity.sourceforge.net/

volga_volga -

flameproof, thanks for the link. this looks good. i was looking for such programme for a while
now...
are you a Russian speaker by any chance?

roddy -

Split this from the Chinesepod discussion.

Another vote for audacity - very useful tool and very easy to use. Maybe takes a little time to
figure out what you can do with it, but worth the effort. If you do a search on audacity you'll
find previous comments about it.

onebir -

There's also a portable version of Audacity. No install required, so you can carry it around on a
USB key.

roddy -

Was going to write more about audacity yesterday but didn't have time.

Audacity is useful as it lets you lay out multiple soundtracks on one page, lets you listen to
one, some or all of them at one time, lets you copy and paste bits of sound around the same way
you do with text in Word, and you can save it all as a project file so it's all there when you
come back to it later.

As an example, you could have a recording from your textbook in mp3 format. You open it with
audacity and listen to it a few times. Then you record yourself reading the same line. Then you
mute the textbook version and listen to yourself, try to spot what's wrong then rerecord minus
(hopefully) the mistakes. Then you compare your second version with the model and realize you are
still getting one sound wrong. So you highlight just that bit of audio and listen to it 10 times,
comparing it with your version. You're still not quite sure what's going on, so you slow it down
by 50% and that helps a bit. So you record your third version, and while it isn't perfect you feel
fairly happy with it. Then you're tired so you save it and go to bed. The next morning you open it
up again and review your first, second and third attempts with fresh ears, taking note of the
changes you made for future reference.

flameproof -

I am not sure about Audacity, but CoolEdit has a "de-noise" function. It works really great on old
tapes to get rid of the often strong background hiss noise.

I think Audacity can do that too. It would be great for the FSI fans out there.....

roddy -

Audacity does, never used it though.

Shadowdh -

Many thanks for the links guys,

It will be very useful...

David W Jackson -

Thanks Flameproof. Nice.

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Forum: Other cultures and language 18th April 2008, 10:20 PM

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comparing the study of Chinese and Arabic

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Re: comparing the study of Chinese and Arabic

I'll third the suggestion for massive amounts of listening.

It's important to have a basic vocabulary of a couple of thousand words. How you get those
(textbook study, flashcards...) is irrelevant,...

Forum: Other cultures and language 12th April 2008, 06:03 AM

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comparing the study of Chinese and Arabic

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Re: comparing the study of Chinese and Arabic

Either both of them speak Mandarin or both of them speak Cantonese, or both of them speak English.

Cantonese and Mandarin are mutually incomprehensible. Wu dialects (such as Shanghainese) and
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English: Native French: since grade school,...

English: Native
French: since grade school, stopped at intermediate to advanced in college
Italian: studied a compressed year, would like to continue it later
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